I guess you still misunterstood me I'm NOT using OpenAL for the loading of OGG-Files. I'm loading the OGG-Files through special OGG-Vorbis-Dlls and just "copy" them into OpenAL-Soundbuffers. That worked great with older nForce2-Sounddrivers, but newer ones won't do it anymore with the Delphi-Headers and crash with alutInit. C-Apps using OpenAL work like they should, so I guess the problem is that the delphi-headers are just outdated and cause problems with newer versions of OpenAL on my nForce2-APU.
And as for the drivers : The sounddrivers' version is 4.31, and as it comes with nVidia-OpenAL Units, they also (OpenAL32.dll, ALut.dll) carrie the same versionnumber. (The driver is very recent, about 1 month or so old).

And as said before games that use OpenAL (like the new UT) or C-Apps using it work fine.

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I've got another problem using OGG-files with OpenAL. This time, I wanted to use the AL_FORMAT_VORBIS_EXT-Extension und no matter what I do, I'm told that this extension is not available. I'v even tried with the example from your page (#9) and put all necessary files in there : the beta wrap_oal.dll, the newest openal32.dll that I could find (0.9.9.3) and all dlls from the vorbis-SDK.

So I really don't know why AL_EXT_vorbis isn't available. So do you have any clues on how I could get around that problem (it really seems that NVidia's OpenAL-Support isn't very good, but as said I'm using separate OpenAL-files)?

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You best first download the openal router from the creative site and install that one first. (That one should work on non-creative soundcards also....
did you add/change the AL_FORMAT_VORBIS_EXT ?
Dou you use directsound3d?
It seems to work on my pc if i follow the steps from the tutorial. But it could be a bug in the nvidia implementation? Let me know....

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I guess it's a problem with NVidias implementation. I can't use DirectSound3, cause that will always crash, even (!) if I use the ALTest-App from the OpenAL-homepage. And yes, I added AL_FORMAT_VORBIS_EXT (=$10003) and I also installed the OpenAL-Router (including the wrap_oal.dll) from Creative. So I guess it's again the fault of NVidia, and I'm getting quite sick of their shabby NForce-Support.

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Something strange happened as today ogg did not work on my pc either. I did a reinstall of the creative runtime, then copied the wrap_oal.dll again. And it worked again. And still does. Accidently i managed to crash winxp by copying the wrap_oal.dll whilst running an openal program (i should have know better )
A last thing you can try: Remove all openal related files before installing the creative runtime.

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nforce2 seems to be buggy with openal i read the following on the openal maillist



SOS: maybe you can install unofficial realtec ac97 drivers, and then install the openal runtime?

(ps do not blame me if anything goes wrong , be sure to backup before...)

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No, that's not THE problem. You must know that differentn Force2-Boards incclude different Sound-Chips (it's a bit tricky). The cheaper boards only have a simple AC97-On Board sound (as the Asus Board you mentioned), whereas the more expensive Boads (as my MSI K7N2G-ILSR, that was ~180€ when it came out) have the Soundstorm On-Board sound. So not all nForce2-Boards have the same sound on-board.

So having a Soundstorm On-Board, I have no other choice than using NVidia's stupid drivers. It's a shame that they can't get the driver thing right (the OpenAL-Problem is not the only one, in Doom 3 for example, Sound just stops afert some minutes of play on almost all nForce2-Boards, other games have problems too) after those nForce2-Boards have been out for so long. But it looks they know that they'll never be able to do proper sounddrivers, that's why they decidided to exclude Soundstorm from nForce3/nForce4.

So I'll just wait until my next board and then buy a real soundcard with working drivers...

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If someone has freepascal working with mac osx, please try openal with it and let me know if it worked....

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You surely mean win32 an linux, don't you?

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i fixed that

i could not believe someone already tested openal with freepascal and mac osx.

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